tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10610763.post1973596724691098055..comments2024-01-12T07:22:33.175-08:00Comments on The Fabulous Lorraine and Fiends: One Wild Kitty and Two Night Garden PoemsFabulousLorrainehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14889080113368458412noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10610763.post-7191299457016401402008-08-26T10:33:00.000-07:002008-08-26T10:33:00.000-07:00Hey! :DHey! :DJesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03251196964275450121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10610763.post-40530602527038942212008-08-26T08:34:00.000-07:002008-08-26T08:34:00.000-07:00You hope...You hope...spacedlawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12462723005560128474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10610763.post-17641827588862398412008-08-26T07:33:00.000-07:002008-08-26T07:33:00.000-07:00It was Dawn of the Dead that they shot (and which ...It was <I>Dawn of the Dead</I> that they shot (and which my Dandan witnessed shooting thereof) at Monroeville Mall, by the way, not <I>Day of</I>. Mr. Jess corrected me and I am duly shamed; I hereby make a full confession as to my Wrongness on the matter, even though it's now Tuesday and no one is reading this thread. Now I feel better. ;PJesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03251196964275450121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10610763.post-67312752626721400122008-08-24T11:04:00.000-07:002008-08-24T11:04:00.000-07:00Ah, you make me laugh! You and Dr Score and Jess a...Ah, you make me laugh! You and Dr Score and Jess and perhaps Dan guy are going to be discussing Zombies till the cows come home, who knew we had such experts.<BR/><BR/>I don't think I sent you thiis one, others tho, and they are all on the same theme....<BR/><BR/>Poetry and zombies...To perfect.FabulousLorrainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14889080113368458412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10610763.post-65434134508392218532008-08-24T07:29:00.000-07:002008-08-24T07:29:00.000-07:00Hooo...delurking galore, zombies, wild kitties and...Hooo...delurking galore, zombies, wild kitties and poems! What more could anyone ask for?<BR/>More recipes.<BR/>Hem.<BR/><BR/>Love both texts, Jane Yolen's feeling like it has already been a song that you sang. Your text - the prose part - sounds familiar and I think this is because you had already sent it to me. Without the spooky nursery rhyme though, which I adore.<BR/><BR/>What? Another kitty. Another WILD kitty? Get bars on the windows indeed and hide all the heavy duty tools...<BR/><BR/>Re: question of the day (well: of another day), and more precisely of if a zombie can have a ghost, I suppose it can do but only if a ghost has decided to take possession of the empty corpse. Think hermit crab, there. same thing. I like to think that someone who suddenly becomes a zombie must have a ghost - death or thereabout being rather violent and traumatic - and I should think that the ghost would be rather miffed by all the mess. And that's a story I shall keep for my next ghost tale! Thanks.<BR/><BR/>Lastly, welcome to all unlurkers. Consider yourself dezombified. And don't forget to bring a straight jacket (where else would you discuss seriously zombies and poetry in one go?) This is the place to be on the internet.spacedlawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12462723005560128474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10610763.post-39050649104627287082008-08-23T08:26:00.000-07:002008-08-23T08:26:00.000-07:00I have some experience in this field, and feel tha...I have some experience in this field, and feel that I can say with authority that the reanimated dead are merely zombies possessed by the ghosts of their former selves.<BR/><BR/>That is to say, there are three options when it comes to becoming an abomination upon death:<BR/>(1) You can stick around as a ghost and haunt people.<BR/>(2) Your body can be zombified, whereupon it retains none of your metaphysical essence but does retain some small measure of your personality due to possessing your slowly degrading brain - completely independent of whether you have chosen to stick around as a ghost or not.<BR/>(3) Your ghost can repossess your zombie body, in which case you are the very definition of undead. You can continue to live as you always have, except that your body is now subject to accelerated decay. For this reason, the reanimated often try to stave off decomposition through various means, including by not limited to: consuming others, consuming just their blood, consuming just their hearts, consuming their souls, embalming, deals with unholy forces, and finding a new body to possess.Dan Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00894953005632382940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10610763.post-55849696406326560742008-08-22T23:26:00.000-07:002008-08-22T23:26:00.000-07:00Hi Kali,MAYBE getting the F1. The eastern coordina...Hi Kali,<BR/><BR/>MAYBE getting the F1. The eastern coordinater thinks it the best idea they have, and is going to talk to the breeder...I am getting BARS for all my windows...!!!!!!<BR/><BR/>B52's..Takes me back, that was even before I was Quiche,a and I loved them!<BR/><BR/>And Jess, You and Dr Score SO have to get together...On the Zombie thing!<BR/><BR/>I'm going to go and do a quick post then off to BED!FabulousLorrainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14889080113368458412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10610763.post-87676944355877986792008-08-22T23:21:00.000-07:002008-08-22T23:21:00.000-07:00.Gayle, way to go on the phone posting! I am hopin....Gayle, way to go on the phone posting! I am hoping to get this Kitty, but, of course, nervous, HUGE responsibility....If I could make him happy tho, iit would be worth it...<BR/><BR/>Andiandalen, no worries, I loved yr post last night! Straightjackts indeed! LOL<BR/><BR/>Oh, and "Three dead men" is from the poem, <BR/><BR/>"Fifteen men on a dead man's chest<BR/>Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum<BR/>Drink and the devil had done for the rest<BR/>Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.<BR/><BR/>I needed only three of these men tho...Wasn't it Robert Lious Stevenson? Tho it may have been a shanty before that. My mind is tired...<BR/><BR/>Jess, you will get more, every piece, every little story, you get to know them more....I want the reader to fill in the blanks.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and Gayle, LOVE Nick Bantock, Griffen and Sabine may well have had an influence on me..And the way this seems to be going.FabulousLorrainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14889080113368458412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10610763.post-47584410656448252322008-08-22T23:16:00.000-07:002008-08-22T23:16:00.000-07:00Wow..I'm sorry I missed everything here last night...Wow..I'm sorry I missed everything here last night! (The things I miss when I get stuck on the phone..)<BR/><BR/>Lorraine you held your own following Jane I think..both of the poems are wonderfully vivid. In the interest of full disclosure I gotta admit here that I goggled a little when I saw Jane had contributed, 'cause I love her stuff..and gosh when we told you to be bold you really went for it!;)<BR/>Well done!<BR/>And you're gonna get the F1?? Yup, barkers methinks. I would worry he's gonna teach the girls new naughty tricks. They need to stop this Houdini business this instant.:)<BR/><BR/>Jess, I'm so glad to find I'm not the only one who thinks of the B-52's whenever I see Quiche used.;)<BR/><BR/>Dan I've really enjoyed your contributions to the Boss blog. (Especially the Eddie quote;)<BR/><BR/>Ivenotime, you have bees in the walls? *shudder* Sounds like the Bee-Bengal alliance has a grudge.<BR/>Swarm Patrol sounds like a good idea..I'd be scared half to death if I found bees in my walls. (total weenie here)<BR/><BR/>*waves to all the new people* Join us! We have..um..zombies? lolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10610763.post-18899298709201072052008-08-22T19:08:00.000-07:002008-08-22T19:08:00.000-07:00Erin - As a Pittsburgh resident I can claim a cert...Erin - As a Pittsburgh resident I can claim a certain amount of authority on zombies. My very own grandfather, mayherestinpeace, ran a state liquor store in the vicinity of Monroeville Mall and witnessed-- during shooting on <I>Day of the Dead</I>-- grown men in full zombie makeup pretending to feast on human intestines. (They were really just sausage links.) He said they seemed happy to be zombies.<BR/><BR/>That doesn't really answer the question, of course, nor does my vague memory of a poem they read to us in the first grade which used to terrify me, about a zombie coming nearer and nearer your bed-- and <A HREF="http://books.google.com/books?id=4556vlBfJMoC&pg=PA16&lpg=PA16&dq=%22You+shiver+and+you+scream+and+you+hope+it%27s+all+a+dream%22&source=web&ots=cWk0GVC9yl&sig=VjOf5vpKBWTLzn9cMucCEZxHXrc&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result" REL="nofollow">oh my Fod I've just found it this minute</A>-- it's "The Zombie" by Jack Prelutsky, from <I>The Headless Horseman Rides Tonight</I>. That'll keep me up for another month! :D<BR/><BR/>I'm glad you mention they're old beings in the poem, Lorraine-- that shines some new light on it which I hadn't seen before. Your knowing them in detail-- even if they never appear-- is a good thing to be aware of, so you can bring it forward elsewhere. I think it's important for us to know they're ancient-- but I'm betting there's hints of that in other sections.Jesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03251196964275450121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10610763.post-33861402999727193872008-08-22T18:26:00.000-07:002008-08-22T18:26:00.000-07:00::hanging head:: I'm sorry. I didn't say anythin...::hanging head:: I'm sorry. I didn't say anything about the poetry last night. ::sigh:: That's what I get for staying up WAY too late half the week. (As a way of catching up new folks, the posts are stamped PST or PDT in the USA. I live in Texas, which is currently under CDT.)<BR/><BR/>Back to poetry; I love both. :)<BR/>Ms. Yolen's I want to go on, but I'm sure it ended exactly where she wanted it to end.<BR/>I just assumed that there was more than one voice in your poem, Ms. Fabulous. Granted, it may be due to schizophrenia, but that doesn't distract from the mood. ;) The only thing that struck me oddly was "three dead men." _I_ would have phrased it, "three men dead," but I didn't write it, _you_ did. :)ariandalenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05314214363004851355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10610763.post-85928171322351906182008-08-22T17:30:00.000-07:002008-08-22T17:30:00.000-07:00Hey, look at that. :)Hey, look at that. :)gaypethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10899272957253331125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10610763.post-45593740733972137712008-08-22T17:28:00.000-07:002008-08-22T17:28:00.000-07:00So I charged my new phone. This is a test to see i...So I charged my new phone. This is a test to see if I can REALLY post from here. We'll see...gaypethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10899272957253331125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10610763.post-59642329403299792102008-08-22T17:01:00.000-07:002008-08-22T17:01:00.000-07:00You will be the best Mom this kitty could have. Ma...You will be the best Mom this kitty could have. Maybe you should look into security screens. The kind designed to keep people out, but to keep your familiars in. :)<BR/><BR/>Welcome all new comers. I am so new myself it feels odd to say. But I love it here. And I know that you will too. <BR/><BR/>Lorraine your piece is magical. It did sound like a song to me and I am glad to know that you have more. It feels like a piece of something larger. Do you know Nick Bantock. I hope you don't hate his work because your poem brought those kinds of images to mind for me. And, like his work, I felt like I was given a glimpse into something larger.<BR/><BR/>Good show!gaypethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10899272957253331125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10610763.post-45938926600376671302008-08-22T14:42:00.000-07:002008-08-22T14:42:00.000-07:00Uh. It's looking quite possible I may get this Kit...Uh. It's looking quite possible I may get this Kitty.<BR/><BR/>Life as we know it, is going to change....FabulousLorrainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14889080113368458412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10610763.post-71394695261103377522008-08-22T13:43:00.000-07:002008-08-22T13:43:00.000-07:00Emily, it gives me shivers too. It's all the thing...Emily, it gives me shivers too. It's all the things I like best..<BR/><BR/>I know what you mean about rhythm, Jess, very like music, I tend to sort of just see where it wants to go, and it flows from there. I need to trust myself more, I think.<BR/><BR/>There IS no track here, hee-hee, go where ever you like..People don't ALWAYS turn into ghosts when they die. Lot's of things can happen. I don't know if the ghost, if the person did turn into one, would recognize it's old body.<BR/><BR/>Clearly I am not the best one to answer this question, hee-hee...Oh, wait, I see Dr Score has some theories...Good ones. See you tonight!<BR/><BR/>K, I was thinking Scottish, these Beings are OLD. Glad you liiked it tho! This makes me happy. I am never sure if it is just me who loves them, or if they would work for other people. I guess that's why one SHOWS people ones writing, eh?FabulousLorrainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14889080113368458412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10610763.post-39982813166410195212008-08-22T13:29:00.000-07:002008-08-22T13:29:00.000-07:00Lorraine! I love your spooky nursery rhyme! I have...Lorraine! I love your spooky nursery rhyme! I have ghostly fingers trailing up my spine...<BR/><BR/>I disagree about the "ye" issue, though - I think it's perfectly fine to mix archaisms and contractions. And I'm an ex-Shakespeare scholar... :) ("Ye" also crops up in Scots vernacular a lot, in no very formal way.)<BR/><BR/>But you're the writer: put what feels best to you. I can only say I liked it very much.Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14530845147391401083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10610763.post-64628241631650535582008-08-22T13:03:00.000-07:002008-08-22T13:03:00.000-07:00First off, lovely writing by all. Very well done!...First off, lovely writing by all. Very well done!<BR/><BR/>Secondly, I don't put my two cents in often but when a question on zombies is raised...<BR/><BR/>Erin,<BR/>I’ve always envisioned the (reanimated)-zombie as being the shell of the former person with only fragmented shreds of memories of their former self. Like a living person experiences ghost pains with a lost limb, a zombie would experience pseudo-sensations of being alive without the conscious mind to interpret them.<BR/><BR/>The ghost factor is a more difficult question because ghosts are usually thought of as spirits that were not ready to move on. In theory, the soul of a person killed by a zombie could move on while its reanimated body continued to wreak havoc in this existence. If the soul stayed as a ghost it would then likely manifest as a lost spirit and “haunt” based on its unfinished business, likely never understanding the significance of its reanimated body.<BR/><BR/>But what do I know? ;P<BR/><BR/>See you tonight Q!scored4lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14342695632150221656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10610763.post-3056845109428978632008-08-22T12:34:00.000-07:002008-08-22T12:34:00.000-07:00Apologies for going off track here, but...... I ju...Apologies for going off track here, but...... I just have to ask this crowd my "Zombie" Question of the Day.<BR/><BR/>So, I was just eating ice cream and daydreaming (or as Piers Anthony might say, nightmaring), and my <I>"Zombie" Question of the Day</I> came to mind.<BR/><BR/>Since a person's spirit (in the fantastical world of fiction) turns into a ghost when he dies, what happens if the person becomes a zombie? Does the zombie have a ghost? Can the zombie and the ghost co-exist? Is the human ghost upset by the fact that his body is now a zombie because the ghost can't enter the NeverNever until the zombie is killed?<BR/><BR/>Thoughts?Erin Underwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13225161280626421337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10610763.post-42178584773695029052008-08-22T12:30:00.000-07:002008-08-22T12:30:00.000-07:00You and me both, Emily! My phone won't stop ringi...You and me both, Emily! My phone won't stop ringing. What is it with today? No one ever calls me. (Which I realise makes me luckier than others, but still.) Why <I>today</I>?<BR/><BR/>Hope the painting's going well, Val! There will be pictures when it's ready, yes? I would like to see it muchly much. :)<BR/><BR/>You're kidding, Phiala-- they've <I>moved the Creamery</I>? They can't change my campus! Well, okay, they <I>can</I>, but that little hole-in-the-wall they were in was An Institution. At least, it was by the time I got there.<BR/><BR/>Guts are good to go with, Lorraine! Especially if you're rhythm-oriented when you write. If you're certain something bothers you about a particular line rhythm, or a word, or the <I>sound</I> of something, it's always worth taking a second look at, and fiddling with. <BR/><BR/>When I started working through the Le Guin book, I was really kind of startled by the discovery that I actually write that way, too. I always have this shape of a rhythm in my head before I start, and I sort of "follow" one as I work. That's not only thing I do, of course-- I don't just think up a rhythm and then suddenly, wahey, have a paragraph. But there's always some rhythmic undercurrent-- and if I fight that, or try to force something into it, the writing turns clumsy. I put it down to a quirk of brain wiring, but it's interesting. :)Jesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03251196964275450121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10610763.post-15586626370612778482008-08-22T11:18:00.000-07:002008-08-22T11:18:00.000-07:00Sorry, Lorraine; I totally forgot to mention how m...Sorry, Lorraine; I totally forgot to mention how much I enjoyed yours also. It's just been a distracting day ....<BR/><BR/>~EmilyEmilyLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16781814502682479156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10610763.post-51281217767129918062008-08-22T11:10:00.000-07:002008-08-22T11:10:00.000-07:00Jane Yolen's song really gave me shivers. It was s...Jane Yolen's song really gave me shivers. It was so beautiful but I could feel a little scream in the back of my head.<BR/><BR/>~EmilyEmilyLadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16781814502682479156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10610763.post-51642073100191503142008-08-22T10:51:00.000-07:002008-08-22T10:51:00.000-07:00Make that GUT, not GUY.....More tea.Make that GUT, not GUY.....<BR/><BR/>More tea.FabulousLorrainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14889080113368458412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10610763.post-5445652406340448232008-08-22T10:50:00.000-07:002008-08-22T10:50:00.000-07:00Oh, good point, Val, well caught. The ye did bothe...Oh, good point, Val, well caught. The ye did bother me somewhat, but in the end I left it. Should have gone with my guy.<BR/><BR/>Venus and Mim are fine, but they climbed into bed with me, and told me in great detail everything that happened. Over and over. I asked them not to go out with out me again.<BR/><BR/>Yes....Dan....What IS the thing in your garage, I meant to ask about that as well....FabulousLorrainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14889080113368458412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10610763.post-16372077737281075472008-08-22T10:47:00.000-07:002008-08-22T10:47:00.000-07:00I am so glad that you all liked it! I gots lots of...I am so glad that you all liked it! I gots lots of 'em, all prose poetry in the same theme, that was the only one that flitted off at the end into something else, except for one that wanted to be a proper poem.<BR/><BR/>I know. An F!. Barking mad is the phrase you are looking for. Don't know if it will happen or not, I'd need to have some talks with the people who have him now, and see if they think it is possible to help him.<BR/><BR/>I've done really well with Venus, and these two fosters, all of whom were really un-socialized. We shall see.<BR/><BR/>And you're right, it is by no means certain that I would have a house left....<BR/><BR/>Sue, are they honey bees? If they are, there are beekeepers on Swarm Patrol you can call, the fire and police should know who is signed up in your area. They will come and take the colony and give them a hive. <BR/><BR/>(Yes, I am on swarm patrol here...Never a dull moment!)<BR/><BR/>Welcome, Arwen! See what you have started , Suri? People will be de-lurking all over the place!<BR/><BR/>Gig tonight with Lojo, hurrah!! At Charlie's in Stillwater. Paul and I will both be there, sitting in and having some fun.<BR/><BR/>I will post more things, if you want to read them...FabulousLorrainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14889080113368458412noreply@blogger.com